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Mac vs. PC

Abstract:
There will always be the ongoing debate between Mac and PC, based on personal preference, but if cost is your main concern, you may want to choose a PC.

With low starting prices and a wide range of machines to choose from as well as customizable parts, PCs prove to be the best computers for the hard-working, tight-budgeted student....

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David Korth

posted 5/04/08 @ 5:58 PM EST

I couldn't help but notice several inaccuracies in these articles.

"Apple actually came out with a program called Boot Camp that allows you to run a Windows operating system on your Macintosh computer while keeping the original Mac OS X system too. Two operating systems running simultaneously on one computer! Let's see a Dell do that."

Multibooting has been available for years. For instance, I have both Gentoo Linux and Windows XP installed on my laptop, and I use the GRUB bootloader to select which one to start. (Though I don't use Windows that often.) Even on PowerPC Macintoshes, yaboot was available so you install MacOS, Linux, BSD, etc. at the same time.

"Since the same company makes both the hardware and software everything moves together flawlessly, with no blue screen of death, I might add."

LabVIEW caused a G5 Power Macintosh to kernel panic last week in my engineering class.

"It costs $150 to double the memory of an HP Pavilion dv6700z series laptop from 2-gigabyte RAM to 4-gigabyte RAM direct from the manufacturer, whereas the same upgrade on a MacBook Pro costs $400."

Never buy RAM upgrades from the manufacturer. They're always overpriced, even with the HP.

And as a final thought: PC != Windows. Remember that next time you're comparing PCs to Macs and say that "PCs always crash", because PCs that run an OS that isn't Windows don't have that problem.

Shad

posted 5/09/08 @ 1:25 PM EST

Tanks your blog helped me with my debate for English

Bob

posted 5/10/08 @ 2:18 PM EST

There, there fanboy... Steve jobs will give you a penny.
Seriously, Gaming on a Mac? Forgot you need the hardware to do it? Only Mac pros and the expensive high end iMacs can do gaming... for a few months when their outdated graphics cards become obsolete and you can't upgrade (Mac pro can upgrade when Apple tosses a bone in the shape of a new card every 2 years or so)

P.S.- Oh, by the way, my PC can do stuff your Mac can't... and what it can it can do it better.

David Korth

posted 5/10/08 @ 5:22 PM EST

Originally posted by

Bob

There, there fanboy... Steve jobs will give you a penny.
Seriously, Gaming on a Mac? Forgot you need the hardware to do it? Only Mac pros and the expensive high end iMacs can do gaming... for a few months when their outdated graphics cards become obsolete and you can't upgrade (Mac pro can upgrade when Apple tosses a bone in the shape of a new card every 2 years or so)

P.S.- Oh, by the way, my PC can do stuff your Mac can't... and what it can it can do it better.


Yay, a PC fanboy! Did you know that Intel Macs are exactly the same as PCs, except for the firmware? No? And what exactly can your PC do that a Mac can't? (Besides PXE network booting, which I'll figure out how to get working eventually.)

PS: If the only thing you're buying a computer for is gaming, you need to get a life.

Michael Daeché

posted 9/30/09 @ 1:13 PM EST

Not only the desktop machines. I can do gaming on my low end MacBook Pro on high graphical settings on games like The Sims 3, and on the Windows partition, I can get away with Med-High settings on Crysis. 2.4ghz intel Core 2 Duo, 256mb NVidia 8600m GT, 4GB Ram. My computer only cost me 1,800 second hand which isn't that bad seeming its 64-bit on OS X Leopard which gives me enhanced speed for applications like ProTools, Final Cut Pro, and things of the sort. Mac machines are good. Windows machines are also good. It depends what you want to do. You can do everything on both computers now that Mac is on intel. Gaming seriously seems to be the only thing that I have heard of that Windows users complain about. It is possible, and don't use the word 'Fanboy' because all you might know, the person you are preaching may be an avid windows user and may only be reviewing a Mac for whatever reason, regardless that in this post it seems to be stated in the post that this certain person is now a Macintosh user. Oh, and it seems that Macintosh computers run graphics applications natively. A LOT better than Windows machines in 'some' cases, and in other 'cases' they are not. Each computer has goods and bads and in the end it all goes back to personal preference which nowadays seems to be affected by public opinion and it all goes back to these so called 'fanboys' that LOVE their Windows machines.

Question: Why do you try to bring down Mac users? Macintosh computers are industry standard in the entertainment industry. And think of it this way, your beloved Windows and console games were indeed in most instances made on a Mac. If you want all Mac users to switch to Windows, all your games, songs, movies and television shows will ALL disappear. Come over to Melbourne, Australia and take a tour behind the curtains of Crown Casino. ALL their SMPTE, DMX and their Audio rigs are all hooked into Mac Pro's. They have been booted up ONCE and have not been rebooted since unless of a power outage which never occurs unless the end of the world is near(?). America or not, you'll find that your television stations are all running Mac Pro's and in most cases are running MacBook Pro's. Anywho, enough of me ranting on. I just wouldn't mind an answer as to why Windows, Linux, Solaris (etc...) users want to in basic 'kill off' Mac users, or tell them that they are going to get the thumbs up from Steve Jobs or some stupid statement of the likes.

Regards, Michael Daeché

Originally posted by

Bob

There, there fanboy... Steve jobs will give you a penny.
Seriously, Gaming on a Mac? Forgot you need the hardware to do it? Only Mac pros and the expensive high end iMacs can do gaming... for a few months when their outdated graphics cards become obsolete and you can't upgrade (Mac pro can upgrade when Apple tosses a bone in the shape of a new card every 2 years or so)

P.S.- Oh, by the way, my PC can do stuff your Mac can't... and what it can it can do it better.

Jarrod

posted 6/02/08 @ 1:11 PM EST

My friend is a computer whiz and has managed to get windows xp and linux on his two year old dell.

Greg

posted 6/02/08 @ 2:32 PM EST

Boot Camp, as mentioned, does NOT let you run Windows in a Mac, it allows you to create space on your hard drive to install Windows NEXT to Mac OS X. You must restart your Mac to enter into Windows. If you wish to run Windows INSIDE of the Mac operating system, then you need to pay about $80 for a program called Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion. Both programs allow you to run Windows and Mac OS X simultaneously.

Yes, PC's have had the ability to boot different operating systems such as Windows or any flavor of Linux or even a variation of BSD, but no PC (without hacking into OS X) will run OS X, natively.

Both Macs and Windows computers have their advantages and disadvantages. I use both, I prefer my Mac as I don't have to run an anti-virus program or any other type of malware program in the background to prevent the operating system from hitting a brick wall.

If you're a PC user, try a Mac at a local Apple Store or borrow your friends. If you're an Apple fan, don't be a fanboy, Macs have their disadvantages just as PC's do... ;-)

Greg

Nilesh

posted 6/03/08 @ 9:49 PM EST

Apple will have viruses too eventually. The main reason Apple doesnt have viruses is because hackers at the current moment dont care for MACs because the market for MACs still isnt as high as PCs overall. Though it is growing remarkably fast and even getting some enterprises to think about supporting MACs though they still do prefer PCs.
As far as the article, MACs have alot of problems themselves. The availability of programs for MACs are slim compared to PC OS's(Windows, Linux, etc.) especially due to open-source. MACs also do have hardware issues, one of my friends has a MAC with a CPU that overloads and crashes and shutdowns the computer. Hmm maybe PCs might have a blue screen of death but at least the blue screen helps determine the cause of crash, whereas MACs just go into a blackhole! lol
but in the end you really have to say that its a personal preference of what thpe of computer system someone should buy. For a normal student, who only cares about word processing and internet(who am i kidding, facebook) then a MAC is perfect for them, oh and for digital media majors too. But for the rest of us, especially those that love to mess with their computers by customizing it with software varieties, hardware varities, and overclocking and what not and also have the option to do everything a MAC can do, then a PC is for us.
And to those that believe that MAC is better to buy because PC has a higher chance of getting viruses, well the thing is that if you dont download illegal software or go on sites that you're not supposed to you definitely lower your chances of getting a virus. I run Windows Vista, without any antivirus program and havent had any virus related issues. So is MAC better then a PC, well thats a question of personal opinion. The question that should really be asked is what can a MAC do that a PC cant? and the answer is nothing. Anything a MAC can do, PC can do better!!(after all, nowadays we dont need for Microsoft to release a new OS or service pack, we can just find tons of addons as freeware online)

David Korth

posted 6/03/08 @ 10:28 PM EST

More FUD.

Originally posted by

Nilesh

Apple will have viruses too eventually. The main reason Apple doesnt have viruses is because hackers at the current moment dont care for MACs because the market for MACs still isnt as high as PCs overall.


Apache has around 70% of the market when it comes to HTTP servers, yet 95% of the worms are written for Microsoft's IIS (which has around 20%). By your logic, Apache should be the one with the most vulnerabilities, yet it isn't!

[QUOTE id="9445b5e4-fecd-46ab-a868-b46fd86b1460"]And to those that believe that MAC is better to buy because PC has a higher chance of getting viruses, well the thing is that if you dont download illegal software or go on sites that you're not supposed to you definitely lower your chances of getting a virus. I run Windows Vista, without any antivirus program and havent had any virus related issues. So is MAC better then a PC, well thats a question of personal opinion.[/quote]
Or if you don't use a browser with massive security holes.

[QUOTE id="9445b5e4-fecd-46ab-a868-b46fd86b1460"]The question that should really be asked is what can a MAC do that a PC cant? and the answer is nothing. Anything a MAC can do, PC can do better!!(after all, nowadays we dont need for Microsoft to release a new OS or service pack, we can just find tons of addons as freeware online)[/QUOTE]

Wait, are you saying that before Windows Vista, you had to wait for MS to release a new OS or service pack before you could get a new feature like CD burning or wireless Internet? Wow, Windows was really quite limited.

P.S.: I think you meant "Mac", not "MAC". "MAC" stands for Media Access Control, and is the protocol used to allow multiple computers to access a single network.

sc

posted 6/17/08 @ 5:55 PM EST

Originally posted by

Nilesh

Apple will have viruses too eventually. The main reason Apple doesnt have viruses is because hackers at the current moment dont care for MACs because the market for MACs still isnt as high as PCs overall. Though it is growing remarkably fast and even getting some enterprises to think about supporting MACs though they still do prefer PCs.
As far as the article, MACs have alot of problems themselves. The availability of programs for MACs are slim compared to PC OS's(Windows, Linux, etc.) especially due to open-source. MACs also do have hardware issues, one of my friends has a MAC with a CPU that overloads and crashes and shutdowns the computer. Hmm maybe PCs might have a blue screen of death but at least the blue screen helps determine the cause of crash, whereas MACs just go into a blackhole! lol
but in the end you really have to say that its a personal preference of what thpe of computer system someone should buy. For a normal student, who only cares about word processing and internet(who am i kidding, facebook) then a MAC is perfect for them, oh and for digital media majors too. But for the rest of us, especially those that love to mess with their computers by customizing it with software varieties, hardware varities, and overclocking and what not and also have the option to do everything a MAC can do, then a PC is for us.
And to those that believe that MAC is better to buy because PC has a higher chance of getting viruses, well the thing is that if you dont download illegal software or go on sites that you're not supposed to you definitely lower your chances of getting a virus. I run Windows Vista, without any antivirus program and havent had any virus related issues. So is MAC better then a PC, well thats a question of personal opinion. The question that should really be asked is what can a MAC do that a PC cant? and the answer is nothing. Anything a MAC can do, PC can do better!!(after all, nowadays we dont need for Microsoft to release a new OS or service pack, we can just find tons of addons as freeware online)


He's not talking about SERVERS. He's talking about Personal Computers, Windows has 91% of the Total Market Share.

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8

Cancer Cure

posted 6/05/08 @ 10:04 PM EST

This was a very interesting article to read and the comments make it that much better. From just the article, it sounds like the Mac is better if you do not look at price. I would like to know the reason that the Mac notebook is used by more college students than the PC notebook.

Using a Mac and a PC and dial-up, I noticed that the PC took 5 times as long as the Mac to connect to the internet.

Nilesh

posted 6/07/08 @ 1:32 AM EST

Dialup connection speeds have little to do with the computer, and more to do with the site you are connecting to. Em and this is the broadband age, dialup is so 20th century!!
And why college kids buy MACs, simple, its a FAD, and thats why everyone is buying it, but sooner or later people are going to realize that MACs have their problems!

JohnPaul R. Sein

posted 6/07/08 @ 2:44 AM EST

Look personally i think that it is about time mac got some spot light. i was using macintosh before they had the power pc . back then yeah i wish i had a pc, but now that i do i have to reformat my pc like four times a year because the expensive cpu, motherboard, and os system i got only had trial software to install and not full versions. i never had this problem with my mac. On top of that. well mind you this was in the glory days of "SUPER FAST 500 MHZ" pc lol..... give me a break. i had a 75 mhz mac running faster.. that's sad. but now there are games that are released for the macintosh. that and i have a friend that has shown me to run pc stuff on the mac. yes greg is right you do have to restart the mac to run pc stuff. but who cares? id rather reboot than reformat!!!!!

Greg

posted 6/07/08 @ 2:16 PM EST

@ JohnPaul R. Sein

I agree when you say who cares about rebooting. But in my opinion it's a hassle to wait the extra three minutes or so to switch operating systems. I actually dual boot Windows XP and Mac OS X Leopard, but it's a hassle. Windows has it's issues on my Mac, they are small and minor but enough to annoy any I.T. major. ;)

Glad to see we have a few Mac loyalists at D.U.


Greg

shari Tenner

posted 6/18/08 @ 10:06 PM EST

Outside of Drexel University, Mac computers are used in University settings everywhere without problems. As a Drexel online student, I have constant problems using my Mac and have been told more than once to just borrow a pc for this class or for that assignment. My last class was an informatics class and it was just ridiculous--I had to use my work pc for the entire class. Is Drexel not a tech school? Let's stretch ourselves a little and get mac compatible!
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