The Triangle

Surely you must be kidding, you are obvously unaware of the Albert K Bender case from 1953. His book on the subject "Flying Saucers and the Three Men" is a classic, I've used it as a textbook in the investigator classes I teach on the subject. Have you not even heard of the MIB encounter in 1997 involving Phoenix City Councilwoman Frances Barwood? How can you dismiss that case? I would try to check the facts before writing "opinion" articles.

Here are a few links to help you out.
http://www.skywatch-international.org/special_reports/real_mibs.htm
http://www.skywatch-international.org/special_reports/news_page.htm#mib

Enjoy!

Jim Hickman
Executive Director
Skywatch International
www.skywatch-international.org

I find myself flabbergasted again by our astute writer, Aaron Sakulich. His adventure into the real world of ufology and the results it has had on his belief system is just amazing. I find very unfortunate he is so young at this time and has found the power of the press before he has matured. I feel he will one day find the many reports which are found all across this entire world that supports the field of ufology. I have to assume he has found only the reports that are hoaxes and others made by individuals who enjoy misleading readers. They exist and I do not deny them. Their actions are some of the cause for the confusion that exists today in the field. Now, that's not to mention the professionals and their actions or reasons.

As far as, "the men in black", I have little personal knowledge about them. I have read many reports, from books and other sources that detail their supposed activities. I am not able to support or deny their existence. But, I sure have been around in my lifetime and I sure have seen a lot more than the average person. Those years of experience are what make the difference in how I can quantify accurately. I will be first to say that much of the information found 'out there' that has been provided has been made up, altered or totally adjusted to the point of being ridiculous. However, there remains a good quantity that no one seems to be able to explain. That is, except Aaron Sakulich. Yet Aaron does little to support his apparently surface generated information. I venture to suggest it may be just simply generated in his mind and thus he spreads it to build an image of himself as all knowing. What more can one conclude when such a hard nosed viewpoint is being thrust upon many others?

I can't help to see that Aaron totally condemns the field of Ufology, point blank. This is a crud way for a scientific investigator to act. To be able to influence the people, one must know the truth, believe in the truth and then you must support the truth.

I ask you Aaron, where is the support for you wishful thinking?

Mike
mellaw@twcny.rr.com

Aaron, you just haven't a clue what the hell you are dealing with; nor do you have any clue what you are talking about. I suggest you stop making a complete @ss of yourself with your self-deluded science fiction fantasies.

Oh, wait. I'm supposed to be your evil skeptic mentor.

Keep up the good work! (Moron...)

JimO, evil covert skeptic/debunker

This article sounds an awful lot like a bunch of stories I read in a certain book once :P

It's simply a sad day in the world when so called "skeptics" revert to making grade school book reports. And even worse, it's passed off as "journalism". Even as an editorial, one would at least site sources, make quotations, or make some effort at relevance. Instead we get a vague attempt to debunk something the writer knows little about, and cares not enough for his reading audience to perform a small amount of due dilligence to at least make it seem as he didn't browse a couple of chapters from a book and make a summation.

And for someone seemingly rooted in the "hard" sciences, the writer tosses around quite a lot of speculation into the psychological makeups of individuals who either have experienced something extraordinary, or at the very least think they have. Both issues should be addressed.

I'm not here to stand on a soapbox and claim to the world that UFO's are real, and that every single report is credible. That would simply be even more irresponsible then the writers poor attempt at debunking something that his cursory glance into a book has given us.

The fact is, for every report of something sighted, that cannot be explained, or is strange, or unexplained.. There are 50, nay 100+, that are truly bunk. Pie plates on a string photographed on long exposure, weather balloons, swamp gas, etc. It simply can't be denied that many people want to see something so badly that they make it up, or have motives of financial gain. But there are also tens of thousands, even more depending on how far one wants to research, which come from people who have nothing to gain, who's stories cannot simply be explained away by an atmospheric anomaly, or psychological duress.

This is why people believe. Because they believe in normal people having extraordinary experiences, people like you and me.

Just a couple quick notes in closing.

1. For anyone grounded in the "hard" sciences to dismiss the statistical possiblity, that in the enormity of the universe that life does not exist, let alone intelligent life, even a world exactly like our own, is hard to believe. I do understand that with every theory or hypothesis there is the burden of proof that must come to the table. But seriously. We have to really be self important and egotistical to believe that in this great big universe, that its just us.

2. For anyone who does any research, or keeps up with current scientific research, will be able to tell you that life, as small as it may be is about to be proven to exist on Mars. How you may ask? Little green men boots? A strange face in the martian landscape, an abductee that told us where to look? Not at all.. Hard science. The discovery of the fairly common compound of formaldehyde in the planets atmosphere. While common here, it would not be so in the atmosphere of Mars, where the UV radiation present would cause any and all formaldehyde to evaporate, within about 7hrs. But since trace amounts have been found consistantly, there has to be something producing it. Constantly producing it, for it to show up at all. Other types of gas such as methane are always present, but also decay at a much slower rate, closer to 3-400 years. Do the math, ask a scientist if the prescence of formaldehyde in a UV saturated atmosphere would indicate something was producing it to be traceable. Do the hard science, do the due dilligence Iron Skeptic. Look past what you think you know, and think you can prove to what you could know, and could prove given time and technology.

3. And final point. As a previous poster mentioned. Will Smith will be pissed. I hate to tell you, but it ain't Will you need to be worried about. Tommy Lee Jones is a mean MF..

*quietly goes back to watching the Rocky Horror Picture Show as he puts his tinfoil hat back on and waits for the mothership to beam him up*

Jim Templeton never said the men in black were aliens. He is a normal man and certainly does not suffer derangements or psychoses. Applying generalised labels to people you have never met does not serve any purpose.

instead of trying to "de-bunk" an event to fit your theory, research the facts and report what you see.

Cheers

I saw a UFO once. I don't know if it came from outer space but it was about 50ft across, round, metallic, and it hovered over our stopped car ontop of a bridge in Destin, Florida in 1985. When we were approaching the bridge in the car all we could see was the light shinning down on the center zenith of the span. I jokingly told my friend who was driving that it was a UFO. I really thought it was either the light on the end of the boom on a big floating crane or a helicopter. We stopped near where the light was shinning down, exited the car, and then the light went off. We were about 20 to 30 feet directly under it. It shot off across the bay and was joined by several dozen others just like it and they flew straight up out of sight. It was dark but a clear night in well light.

I was a teenager back then and Im turning 40 next month. Had I not had someone with me seeing the same thing I did I simply would of thought I was having a flashback or a brief loss of my faculties or something.

I am not saying what I saw came from another world, but I can't help but have that impression.

No MIBS came to visit me. I told everyone what I saw and nobody believed me. I dont really blame them. I wish I never saw anything. My friend had "close encounters" before and since that time. I think truly I might of just been with the wrong person.

I swear on the lives of my family and all that anyone could hold as the dearest and most honorable I speak the truth.

Cheers - Semi-Anonymous Don