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Or, instead of visiting those sites mentioned by Mr. Barrington--which are all Scientology front group sites--please visit these, which are NOT backed by the cult.

www.scientology-kills.org www.scientology-lies.org
www.xenu.net alt.religion.scientology

Valerie Emanuel

Actually, Mr. Barrington, this piece was deadly accurate.
Everything Mr. Sakulich wrote has solid research and documentation behind it. Suffice it to say that you, as a Scientologist, will have to pay for repairs if you read this criticism. Since you claim to have had a 37 year relationship within Scientology, it's pretty Clear you've never been exposed to entheta, or you'd have entered a Condition of Doubt long ago. The issue isn't whether or not Scientology is a religion; this is just a diversionary smoke screen thrown up to obscure the real reason people protest it. It is not about the beliefs held by Scientologists. It is about the abuses, the fraud, the practice of medicine without training, and the rapacious moneygrubbing Scientology is famous for.

Strange, isn't it, that you state this article is distorted and inaccurate, yet you offer no proof of any inaccuracies.
Could it be because you didn't read the article at all?

Scientology's websites are full of anecdotal testimonials with no cites to support them. "Scientology saved my life," is an empty statement parroted by Scientologists worldwide.

Hubbard's own records, boxes of them, portray him as a liar, a phony, a thief. His Navy record was very revealing as to the type of person he was. He was married three times, at one point to two women. There was a history of domestic violence and child abuse. You poor, gullible man! You choose to believe in Hubbard the "humanitarian" rather than Hubbard the phony war hero, wife beater, child abuser. Like many pathological liars, Hubbard was an expert on everything, and Scientology reflect that in their courses that purport to address every facet of human life.

The websites you recommend are all very theta, that is, one sided. When buying anything, from a car to a "religion," it pays to shop around and look at both sides.

http://www.xenu.net is a great place to start, but you'll never read it as long as you're an indoctrinated True Believer. When you realize that true freedom is just on the other side of the door, perhaps you'll read it then. There's still time to have a life, you know. You don't have to live in Ron's Truman Show forever.

There are hundreds of former members of the cult that have told their stories on how they were locked up in RPF and defrauded out of their time and money.

Read the free online book "A Piece of Blue Sky" by Jon Atack a high level cult member for 9 years:

http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/

There are also plenty of former members that are currently counseling people that have left or are trying to leave this cult. You can witness some of this discussion on the USENET newsgroup alt.religion.scientology. (for people without a USENET feed -- groups.google.com provides free access)

www.Xenu.net is down right now.

Visit the mirror of the site at www.clambake.org

These scholars were not provided with all the details of the OT Levels of scientology. OT III - OT VIII

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_controversy and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

If you think the Xenu story is odd, read about the other scriptures at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_opera_%28Scientology%29

Please note that Karl-Josef Rauber, Papal Nuncio to Hungary told Hungarian television that "We don't know anything about the author of the Scientology publication distributed in the Parliament [Urbano Also Galan], he is unknown in Vatican." He commented on Scientology as well: "The entire organization and its operation is a totalitarian one. They are talking about freedom, but they are actively preventing it; they destroy the moral and social identities of their followers. The end goal of Scientology is not a religious, but rather a business one, in my opinion."

http://www.mno.hu/portal/23785

Originally posted by

mb887766

Some of the religious scholars referenced my earlier posting:

Bryan R. Wilson, Ph.D., Emeritus Fellow, Oxford University, England

Frank K. Flinn, Ph.D., Adjunct Professor in Religious Studies, Washington University, Saint Louis MO

Regis Dericquebough, Professor, Sociology of Religion, University of Lille III, Lille, France

M. Darrol Bryant, Ph.D. Professor of Religion and Culture, Renison College, University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario Canada

Alejandro Frigerio, Ph.D., Associate Professor of Sociology, Catholic University of Argentina, Buenos Aires, Argentina

Urbano Alonso Galan, Doctor in Philosophy and Licentiate in Theology, Gregorian University and Saint Bonaventure Pontifical Faculty, Rome

Fumio Sawada, Eighth Holder of the Secrets of Yu-itsu Shinto

David Barrington, www.happierlife.org

I've heard and/or read the substance of your reply in one form or another over a period of 37 years. I can only speak from personal experience and the observed experiences of those I have assisted employing one or another of the technologies developed by L. Ron Hubbard. Uniformly they make it easier to resolve unwanted conditions and get on with life.

Anyone can learn and use these tools.

www.ScientologyHandbook.org has various chapters, each containing a "how-to" that can be read online and applied in life.

I strongly recommend to students and educators the chapter on "Barriers to Study." Also, to take a look at www.able.org and www.appliedscholastics.org.

I wish you well.

If any Faculty member reads this, I'd be pleased to do a talk on Dianetics & Scientology. I knew Mr. Hubbard, his wife and four children. He was my senior supervisor on my first course in Dianetics.

David Barrington, www.happierlife.org

Yes when you check out www.religiousfreedomwatch.com make sure you visit this page:

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/index.html

This site is a Scientology front. Much like the current Cult Awareness Network.

This page is a perfect example of the Scientology practice called "Fair Game". Type "Scientology Fair Game" into a search engine and read more about it.

"rants such as his resulted in Scientologist children being beaten up in Clearwater, Florida ... doctors removed a bullet-riddled baby from her mother's womb the mother remains paralyzed from the waist down."

Wow, great stories, all. I can't speak for the one in France--but the rest are bullhockey. The cult annually recycles the 'mad killer in Oregon' one--there was a nutcase shooter in Oregon, but the lady is all right.

And I live near the Tampa area. If anybody was beating up Scientology kids, it'd be front page page news. Checking the papers and the net......nope. Nothing. You're either a liar or you're believing someone else's lies. I wonder which?

One would think that a real religion wouldn't send in their vultures following a tragedy of this magnitude. Yet, there they are, Scientology's Volunteer Ministers, grinning for the cameras in nice clean yellow jackets, from Beslan to Columbine, from New York City to tsunami afflicted regions. Sneaking in under barricades, drowning in Sri Lanka, giving magical "touch assists" (feel my finger! thank you!) and handing out Hubbard material, they seek to profit from disaster of any magnitude.

That is why Mr. Sakulich's piece was coincidentally, extremely relevant. The Scientologists are already in London, only this time, they are reportedly wearing emergency orange jackets with "Church of Scientology Emergency Minister emblazoned on them. One can't help but wonder how they manage to get all that on there. They don't want to be mistaken for Episcopalians, you know.

This rebuttal probably comes from one of Scientology's PR monkeys. These true believers are "hatted" to find forums and articles such as this. Their job is to try and look as dimwitted and gullible as possible, and they do succeed wonderfully. Let's deconstruct this piece a bit, and I will show you how Scientology twists the truth into something skewed 30 degrees from true.

I know Keith Henson. I picketed with him in Hemet at Scientology's secret base in California. The facts of Keith's situation are:
He used to teach pyrotechnics. Not bomb building. There is a difference. Keith Henson was railroaded by Scientology corruption. He is in Canada because a Scientologist attorney suggested that he might not survive a year in a Riverside jail, because of Scientology's heavy influence over that establishment.

And about the pregnant lady? You forgot to mention that the guy who unloaded his clip at the "Church" of Scientology did so because he was mentally unstable and they had taken $60,000 of his money. Tch, I'm astonished that you would neglect to include that little tidbit!
http://www.xenu.net/archive/WIR/wir2-31.html

Interestingly enough, reading this issue of ARS Week In Review also mentions a pair of Scientologists who were busted for selling "Blue Laundry Balls" full of magic water.

Scientology is a scam and a blight. It's amusing to watch the Scientologists "hatted" to post to forums like this unwittingly reveal the extent of the indoctrination.

Barrington says, "Yeah, I've heard this before, but it works for me. I've seen it." Since it works for him, he's willing to voluntarily remain ignorant about the criticism over abuses, fraud, Hubbard's lies, and so on. (As Hubbard would say when he ran out of words, which wasn't often)

Barrington and the anonybot I'm responding to here will refuse to admit Scientology is deeply flawed.
Lisa McPherson was only one example. A more recent case occurred in Buffalo, NY. A young man named Jeremy Perkins stabbed his mother 77 times because he did not want to take his vitamins. A second generation Scientologist, Jeremy suffered from schizophrenia, and his parents, like all good Rondroids, chose to treat him with vitamins, just as Tom Cruise recommends.

How can you ignore these kinds of needless tragedies? What I find most repugnant about Scientology is the way it portrays itself as a beneficent group whose goal is to help mankind.
In truth, it's very different.
Their drug rehab project, Narconon, doesn't work. In fact, the Narconon Drug Education program has been terminated in public schools; in California, Hawaii and Boston.

Administrators are starting to look beyond the glossy promotional brochures and finding out what lies behind the religious facade of this greedy, manipulative, bullying cult.

Mr. Barrington probably should give a presentation on Scientology. It's very likely that his audience, who actually CAN look at both sides, will be better informed, and have a great time using him as a squeak toy.

Anyone who knows how to use Google can plug in the names and events mentioned here and draw their own conclusion about Scientology.

Also, I feel I ought to mention that the deadline for articles is tuesday; the bomb attacks occured on thursday. Believe it or not, a newspaper takes more than one day to put together, so after I submit articles on tuesday, they are out of my hands.

If I had the ability to see the future, as you suggest I do, I would have chosen a different topic on which to write. I would also be down at the race track becoming a millionaire. Sadly, my precognitive abilities, like Scientology, are purely science fiction and, again like scientology, have no basis in reality.

Be seeing you,
Aaron Sakulich

Friend,

I write the articles, not the headlines. For that, I suggest you send your comments to sci-tech@thetriangle.org. I write just the article.

Good day,
Aaron Sakulich

Hubbard College? Applied Scholastics?

L. Ron Hubbard is a college flunkee. A copy of Hubbard's grades from college are in his navy record, they are here :
http://www.lermanet.com/L_Ron_Hubbard/mr142.htm.

I suggest people seeking education avoid getting it from the psychotic ramblings of a dope fiend flunkout.

Did you know his son L Ron Hubbard Jr.? Hubbard's oldest son participated in the development of Scientology tech with his father. Here is what he had to say about the so-called "Upper Levels" of Scientology: "I've said many times, by the way, the upper levels are not only unworkable, they are highly destructive and detrimental."

Read more about what Jr. had to say about his fathers cult:

http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/newsherald-DeWolfe07-82.htm

Did you know Quentin? Learn why he is dead at:

http://www.whyaretheydead.net/Quentin_Hubbard_22/