Abstract:
Some oppose intelligent design because it doesn't explain who designed the intelligent designer. It's a metaphysical objection. It demands an answer that scientific observation, analysis and experimentation cannot provide. It presupposes that the Intelligent Designer was designed or had to be designed, and that it was designed by a "who" - some person or sentient being....
Originally posted bydaenku32
Is this a joke?
You used Big Bang as an example of why ID is part of science, and you attempted to justify an Intelligent Designer using scientific (materialistic) principles... "
Originally posted byRoddy Bullock
Mr. Mulgrew's analysis is right on point, and his article is worthy of careful consideration. Objective science simply lets evidence lead the inquiry, and does not shy away from certain inferences because of the implications. Mr. Mulgrew develops this idea very nicely by showing the hypocracy of implication-driven science--some hypotheses are OK, others are not.
Good job, Mr. Mulgrew. This is exactly the kind of reasoned discourse that can move this important debate forward in a constructive manner.
Roddy Bullock, Executive Director, Intelligent Design Network of Ohio
daenku32
posted 2/16/07 @ 9:23 AM EST
You used Big Bang as an example of why ID is part of science, and you attempted to justify an Intelligent Designer using scientific (materialistic) principles. Of course this is ridiculous because there is no sign of an designer capable of creating the Big Bang or anything else. It requires evoking powers that have not been detected and that cannot to extrapolated using existing scientific knowledge.
Then at the end you attempted to claim that studying 'what happened in the past' is a "forensic science", "not a natural science". This is ridiculous on so many levels. First, forensic sciences ARE natural. They only evoke materialistic explanations. What ever Intelligence might be behind an act, it is certain to be materialistic (ie. NOT God). Second, since speed of light is limited, all observations we perform are actually done by looking at the past. There is no 'real time' when you really get down to it. We can only observe "what happened some time ago". If you take the approach that Big Bang is not "a real science" and ID argument is based on postulating the beginning of the Big Bang, then ID still wouldn't get taught in science class or much less considered as real science due to its reliance on the Big Bang. And it is not anyways because the very proposition of an ID is purely philosophical and therefore not for science, not even "forensic sciences".